Back in the early 1990's, when I was doing my graduate work in the Department of Politics at the Catholic University of America, one of my professors was Stephen Schneck. A sometime chairman of our department, Dr. Schneck was bright, young, soft-spoken, and well liked by students. He's still three of those things today, but then none of us are quite as young as we used to be.
Now the director of the Institute for Policy Research & Catholic Studies at CUA and a board member of Democrats for Life, Dr. Schneck has made a name for himself as a vocally pro-life Catholic who continues to identify as a Democrat and to fight against the national Democratic Party's pro-abortion stand. While there are many Democratic candidates at the local level, particularly in the Midwest and the South, who remain pro-life, such voices have been virtually shut out at the national level, and Dr. Schneck is determined to try to change that.
In the meantime, however, Dr. Schneck continues to support Democratic candidates at the national level who are pro-abortion, including President Barack Obama. While that seems in conflict with statements from the U.S. Catholic bishops that voters cannot support candidates who support intrinsic evils such as abortion, Dr. Schneck, to his credit, does not try (as some Catholic supporters of the President do) to claim that Barack Obama is not pro-abortion. Instead, his argument is subtler and worthy of consideration—even if, in the end, it does not adequately address the question of support for an intrinsic evil.
Earlier this month, during the Democratic National Convention, Dr. Schneck appeared on EWTN's The World Over with Raymond Arroyo. You can watch the episode on YouTube here; Dr. Schneck's portion begins at the 9:45 mark. The crux of his argument is this: While President Obama and other national Democrats are pro-abortion, national Republican elected officials who are putatively pro-life have done little to curtail, much less end, abortion. And, he contends (and I think he is correct on this point), that is not likely to change in the coming years. Abortion, for both the Democratic and Republican parties, is a potent electoral issue, and both benefit from maintaining the status quo.
If, for instance, Roe v. Wade were ever overturned and the question of abortion were returned to the states, neither party would any longer be able to use the issue effectively at the national level. That would allow a reshuffling of voters at the national level, as (for instance) more libertarian types who favor abortion might quit voting for Democratic candidates and start voting for Republicans instead, while (for instance) Catholics who have been voting for Republicans because of their pro-life stance might return to their traditional home in the Democratic Party.
Dr. Schneck's argument is that, in the absence of any evidence that pro-life Republicans will actually advance policies that will curtail or end abortion, voters should consider what effect particular policies advanced by each party might have on the abortion rate. He contends that the expansion of insurance under ObamaCare will provide better prenatal coverage and reduced costs for bringing children to term, and therefore reduce the economic pressures that contribute to the decision to abort.
In the abstract, such an argument makes some sense, and it is generally true that abortion rates fall during times of prosperity and rise during periods of austerity. But the elephant in the room (and, no, I don't mean the GOP) is the fact that voting for candidates who support such policies yet also support abortion on demand means voting for candidates who support an intrinsic evil.
That the actions (rather than the rhetoric) of both of the two major national parties indicate that neither wishes to change the status quo on abortion does not mean that we are no longer morally required to consider whether a particular candidate supports an intrinsic evil such as abortion. What it may mean is that neither candidate in a particular race is worthy of Catholic support. Dr. Schneck does not address this in his interview, but I suspect that he would say that if Catholics wish to have political influence in the United States, they have to work within the two-party system. And that, as longtime readers of this site know, is where he and I disagree.
In the wake of the 2008 presidential election, prompted in part by a provocative article by my old friend Fr. Robert Johansen (another CUA graduate), I outlined an alternative by which Catholics who are serious about increasing their influence on national politics could hold both parties' feet to the fire by refusing to vote for any candidate who departs too far from Catholic moral and social teaching. (See "Where Faith and Politics Intersect.") That would mean, in practice, sometimes not voting for any candidate in a particular race. Far from marginalizing Catholics, such a strategy would make serious Catholics one of the most sought-after voting blocs in any national election.
The greatest stumbling block to such a strategy comes from the fact that too many American Catholics place their loyalty to the Democratic or Republican Party above their commitment to the moral and social teachings of the Catholic Church. And another large group of American Catholics have bought into the idea that not voting, even as part of a larger strategy to increase Catholic political influence, is somehow un-American or—and I wish I were making this up—a sin. Breaking out of those mindsets is necessary if we wish to increase Catholic influence on national politics. More Catholics today (it seems to me) are less in thrall to the parties than they were four years ago, but the idea that we must cast a vote in every race still holds sway.
As the November election approaches, this is a discussion Catholics need to quit avoiding. The current strategy—voting for the lesser of two evils, even when the lesser evil is unlikely to do what we think he ought to do—is not working. Is Steve Schneck right? Can we ignore a candidate's support for intrinsic evil if we think his other policies might reduce abortion? Is my idea—holding all candidates' feet to the fire on every issue that concerns Catholics—worth a try? Watch Dr. Schneck's interview, and read my article, and leave your thoughts in the comments.
So the Republicans are against abortion, The Dems are for it but you THINK neither will change anything. That’s THINK, Doctor. So you conclude we should vote for Obama-the man who is definitely FOR not only abortion but late term abortion and who intends to force Catholic hospitals to provide abortions and provide healthcare to their workers that include abortions!!!! Great logic, Doctor. Thank you but no thank you. Romney Ryan in 2012!!
Since evil or should I say the devil and his helpers comes to us in many forms. People will continue to use and abuse unprotected sex which is the start of the choice to abort, abuse of our bodies or temples of the Holy Spirit with drugs and alcohol, and trying to abolish these evlls has not worked yet.
If we stop voting, then who knows who and where we are. I prefer the professor’s thinking and will continue to be a pro life Democrat.
By the Church continuing to support the wealthy Republicans in the hopes that things would change is unrealistic.The rich can have all their abortions in private while the middle class and poor have to find the medical care they need in the public sector
.It boils down to you cannot legislate morality. Men and women have to make their right choices.
Why is abortion the only instrinsic evil considered? What about the evil of ignoring social justice and the option for the poor? Neither party is perfect and there are plenty of ‘evils’ on both sides to be considered.
You must be kidding.
There is nothing, I repeat NOTHING, that could compel faithful, orthodox Catholics to cast a ballot for the democratic ticket. There is one issue in this election – the sanctity of life – and until our nation gets that right, nothing else will be right. Obama has had his day – the longest day in the history of this nation – if only we could ask the hundreds of thousands of aborted babies what THEY think of the current administration – then we would certainly have our answer about for whom we should vote.
Dr. Schneck -keep thinking but please start praying. I will pray for you.
I am tired of people thinking that the Republicans are for the wealthy. Look at the main supporters of the Democratic Party: Warren Buffet, Bill and Melinda Gates, George Soros and just about all of Hollywood. That’s just to name a few. The notion that Republicans care only about the wealthy is nonsense. I am not wealthy (materially) but I know the Democrats want to take more of what little money I have so they can fund their programs, while padding their own coffers.
Republicans want to empower the individual by letting us keep more of our earnings so we can do with it what we feel is best in a charitable way (by the way, Republicans give far more to charity than Democrats – that’s a proven IRS statistic). But I digress. The real issue I am trying to get at is you cannot blindly vote for Democratic candidates who support abortion just because you think Democrats care more about the poor. That simply is not true. Funding programs to the point of harming the rest of the economy and making more people dependent on government is not compassionate toward anyone, and saying that quality of life (e.g., through government programs) is more important than sanctity of life is wrong. Selling your soul to the Democrats because they promise to provide things for you is to remove God from the equation in terms of trusting in His providence to give you what you need, while at the same time it supports candidates who would be okay with killing the unborn – just because you hope to get the things the politicians promise you. Try explaining that to God that you chose physical self-comfort at taxpayers’ expense over the sanctity of human life. It doesn’t add up.
I started to watch that interview of Steve Schneck on World Over and I had to turn it off because the guy started to make me sick. With friends like him, Catholic don’t need enemies.
In fact, I usually don’ t watch when any politician is on that show–Republican or Democrat.
If you hate children and want to continue seeing them ripped apart alive; and, if you love Communism and all it’s history of mass murder and human misery, then the Democrat party is the very best place for you.
There is no such thing as “social justice”. The day when every baby is born with movie star looks and Albert Einstein brains, maybe then will there be “social justice.” Plain justice works for me.
Romney Ryan, the pro life candidates all the way.
An excellent analysis by Scott and I am 100% in agreement. I rarely vote for candidates of either party of the duopoly and usually vote for either a 3rd party or independent candidate or not at all. I figure to get my vote you should be something a little better than just possibly less evil than a very extreme evil.
hello, in regards to your friend, he calls himself a catholic, theres no way around it , he is not a catholic and prochoice. democrat or republican. NO WAY AROUND IT!!!!!!!!! GOD BLESS
Think about this, republicans may say they are pro life, when in reality they only mean anti abortion. Most support unjust wars, and the death penalty. That in my eyes is not pro life.
After 6 years of Republican control of the house, senate and presidency without enough done on the abortion issue I became convinced that the pro-life stance of many politicians was just a ploy to gain the votes of those on the “Christian Right”. I don’t believe any of them any more, Republican or Democrat.
Does the Catechism define spending fewer taxpayer dollars on “social justice” as an intrinsic evil?
If you’re a Catholic Democrat who will always vote for the Party that promises to spend more on welfare programs — no matter the effectiveness or sustainability of those programs — and that matters more than that same Party’s complicity in the homicide of millions of unborn children, fine, but don’t misuse Catholic teaching to buttress your moral relativism.
The “Great Society’s” welfare expansion and Roe v. Wade both owe their inauspicious starts, and continuing ideological support, to the Democratic Party. What enduring good have they wrought? Have checks from the government made families stronger, encouraging mothers and fathers to marry and thereby take the surest steps away from poverty?
Which Party’s convention platform supports abortion on demand (and had to be arm-twisted into inserting God into the platform)? (Democrat) Which Party’s platform includes support for the Life Begins at Conception Act? (Republican) Which Party is pushing that bill through Congress? (Republican) Which candidate is more likely to sign that Act? Romney may be late to the game as a “pro-lifer” (though Paul Ryan certainly isn’t) but at least he’s on the field, instead of miles away. He’s had at least a partial conversion, unlike President Obama and the Democrats.
I think the only way to get the Democratic Party to change its pro-abortion stance is for voters to turn out in droves for the Party that at least SAYS it has the opposite approach — the Republicans.
Yes, I heard Dr. Schenck on EWTN….quite astounding interview!
I am an Independent voter and so I have been deliberating not voting since it really is disgusting to see how the politicians play a partisan ploy using this ‘anti-abortion/pro-life’ stance.
Noone running is truly pro-life……a far liberal as possible and his entourage, and a liberal suddenly feigning ‘conservative’; it is only his money that has brought him thus far.
If Christians i.e. both Catholics and Evangelicals really showed their disdain by not voting for either of these ‘political groups’, then they would realize that people saw through their miserable and unwholesome thinking and morality. However, this is merely Utopian since in reality the country is gravely divided into Republican and Democratic stalwarts!!! God help us and stay us in the course that we deserve!!
To the “social justice crowd”. Yes, social justice is good. However, there is *NO* requirement that social justice can only be performed by governments. Start supporting your Church and stop supporting what is intrinsic evil. Yes, believe it or not murdering someone is worse than not paying their doctor bills.
I am always amazed at those who put life above all other issues and their lack of consistent belief. I don’t believe there are alot of people “for” abortion. No, allowing abortion does not mean you favor them.
How about we also consider an end to the death penalty? Maybe we should follow our conscience as well and realize there is no such thing as a “just war” and demand that our tax money not go to the military and stop funding wars of adventure. Or how about health care for all citizens instead of cheering the idea that those who can’t afford for profit insurance die on the streets? Dare I mention taking care of the elderly so they don’t die an early death from lack of food or medicine or any other malady and likewise the very young? We seem to forget them once they leave the womb and aren’t so cute and cuddly as infants.
I could go on. If you really valley life, value it in all it’s forms and at all ages. Social justice is indeed a matter of life and death and maybe we need to work on the issues that make people seek an abortion. The best way to not have an unwanted pregnancy is to not have one in the first place, but, that’s a whole other argument waiting to happen.
I could never vote for Obama. Not after the HHS mandate. And while I’m not thrilled with Romney, I very much like Ryan. I hope that if Romney gets elected, Ryan will have a lot of influence on him. And I hope and pray that Ryan some day gets elected president.
Speaking of the death penalty, I grew up in the time when all the bad guys were killed at the end of a movie and all the good guy happily rode off in the sunset with the pretty girl. In other words, A HAPPY ENDING.
So, before I learned to crawl I’ve been pro-death penalty.
So, there was right and wrong, good and evil, guilty and the innocent. And guess who are the guilty, and who are the innocent , between an unarmed innocent defenseless child born or pre-born, and the grownup convicted killer.
I had to leave a job which was saving lives of abortion victims. I call them victims because many of them have not had a chance to know the evil in their actions. Victims of ignorance. The program was using MVAs to treat post-abortion care complications. However the same instrument could be used to perform abortion by the trained midwives. After quitting the job, I had peace. I could not stop the malpractices of the midwives and I could see all the good I was doing to save lives going down the drain. So by supporting the pro-abortion leaders the Dr. is doing himself a dis-service.
As far as I know and was taught throughout my life, I am to follow the example of our Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ. That said, for example, he commanded Mary Magdalene to go forth and not to sin anyone. Jesus didn’t go ahead and shut down the brothels. As another writer said, one cannot force morality. Even our own God gave us the ultimate gift of freedom to make our own choices. Who are we then to play such that we think we are better than God? I am not pro-abortion, but I;d rather spend my time an monies being more proactive in giving to shelters that care for young single mothers and speak to others about how to live a more Godly life. Is this way of doing things more work and more costly? You bet! But I think it better follows the teachings of Jesus and that which is in the Gospel. The only time I recall Jesus ‘losing it’ was when the merchants turned the house of God into a market place. Basically, exchanging our living God for the God of money. Look at what the Republicans do with money? My vote, therefore, is solidly then for the Democrats. From my teachings, it’s the most Catholic/Christian thing to do.
I agree w/Schneck–Pres. Bush nominated Alito and Roberts (supreme court justices.) I watched the nomination hearings. They said that they would uphold Roe v Wade. They are supposed to be conservative–forget it. They said Roe v Wade was the law of the land. People need to be informed. I don’t see the Republicans as pro-life. Abortion needs to be wiped-out in the hearts of the individual. Pray.
If you agree with Schneck, you may as well quit lying to yourself and just join a Unitarian Church.
How can a Catholic support a political platform that cheers abortion and taking other peoples wealth (a.k.a. theft)? Not to mention they have declared war on the Catholic Church and religious freedoms. Just because it is government sponsored, does not mean it is justified.
Did anyone watch the DNC convention? It was basically a rally for planned parenthood. I have never seen so many people that excited about killing babies.
Now, “social Justice.” If I hear those words again, I am going to vomit. Can anyone give me a good definition of “social justice?” When they stop talking in broad platitudes, it basically boils down to this–Marxism with a smile.
Jesus taught us to give to the needy of our own volition. He did not take everyone’s wealth and ‘redistribute’ it around. When we give on our own, it means something. When the govt. takes your money and gives it to someone, it means nothing to your salvation. If you are taxed to death, will you give more to the needy? No, you will not. If you are able to keep more of your own property (a.k.a. monetary wealth), you will be able to give more to causes you believe in personally.
If redistribution worked as a philosophy, then the Soviet Union would still be in business and Greece would be profitable. Clean out your head gear people. Are the Republicans the perfect choice? No, they have problems as well, but nothing made by men is perfect since we are not the creator. But, they are a much better choice when it comes to core Catholic principals. Those are my two cents.
I’ve always respected Dr. Schneck, but not so much now. As a life -long registered Democrat, and also a member of Democrats for Life, I try to work within the party to make changes. However, I find it impossible to support such a radically and vociferously pro-abortion person as President Obama. This man has made MAJOR changes that advance the anti-life agenda, which the Republican candidate has pledged to reverse. That, at least, is a step in the right direction.
When a pro-life president is in the White House, at the very least federal policy discourages support of and payment for abortions.
It’s a start!
Wow, it seems like all the people on here all blind to what’s happening in this United States. First of all I am Roman Catholic and I try to live by the Holy Spirit in all my action. Well I don’t know how we can vote for any candidate who is for abortion but also for gay marriage. If the Democrats would not be so liberal and more Godly in their action in United States but instead pushing or shoving their gay agenda on us and our Godly family. We think that its only abortion and are blind to where the Democrats are leading the United States too. Yes the Republican party seems to be for the wealthy but we are looking for the less of two evil and clearly its not the Democrats. Open your eyes people and look beyond your pride , pray the God will give you the right answer. God bless you all
Both major parties are lost because American society has lost its focus on Truth as its guiding principle. We are like the ancient Hebrews, who slid into captivity without realizing until it was too late.
Look around you? Who is “the American people?” There is no more. There is this community, that community, on and on. Nothing in common but chasing money.
Jesus warned that a house divided could not stand. Isn’t t diversity great!
A Christian and/or Catholic cannot make ANY case for voting for Obama. The greater warfare going on is between God’s ways or the way of evil. Obama represents the latter way. He has hurt the poor and the middle class more than he has helped his cronies and his wealthy friends, be they the holywood celebrities or power brokers of Green Energy, the Big auto manufacturing companies, and General Electric. He has given more dollars to Wall Street than his opponets. Obama has out-sourced the manufacturing of auto and green energy products. Any Catholic who would vote for Obama does not know all the facts. If he know all the facts and he still votes for Obama, then he is not a Christian or a good Catholic. I’m disappointe din your website for even printing his poor excuse for voting for Obama.
I’m disappointed in your website for even printing his poor excuse for voting for Obama. A Christian and/or Catholic cannot make ANY case for voting for Obama. Afterall, it is not just about being pro-life or pro-abortion. The election is about being pro-American or pro-socialism and pro-Muslim rather than pro-freedom of religion. Obama has all but pushed Catholicism under the bus. He is a repeated liar saying only what [he thinks will get him elected]. The greater warfare going on is between God’s ways or the way of liberalism (evil). Wake up! The Democratic Party is not the same party it was back in the 60′s. I was a Democrat, but now I would be ashamed to be known as the party of liberalism, same sex marriage, pro-abortion, anti-constitution, anti-prayer, and anti-God. Obama has HURT the poor and the middle class more than the rich. He has helped his cronies and his wealthy friends, be they the Holywood celebrities or power brokers of Green Energy, the Big auto manufacturing companies, or General Electric. He has given more dollars to Wall Street than his Opponets. Obama has out-sourced the manufacturing of autobiles and green energy products to other countries. ANY CATHOLIC WHO WOULD VOTE FOR OBAMA DOES NOT KNOW ALL THE FACTS. If he knew all the facts and still votes for Obama, then he is not a Christian or an intelligent American Citizen.
So, Dee, even though Dr. Schneck’s argument has been getting a lot of play because of his appearance on EWTN, I should not discuss it, even to make it clear in the post why I think he’s wrong? It would be better for this argument to go unchallenged than to mention it?
There seems to be two major problems with Schenck’s argument.
1) The claim that Republican policies actively promote abortion is suspect at best. (Admittedly, I am taking this from a biased source)
https://www.weeklystandard.com/articles/what-schneck_652897.html
2) The argument also ignores the fact that Obama has deliberately and actively promoted abortion using the power of his office. For instance, Obama signed executive orders like the repeal of the Mexico City Policy. The Mexico City Policy forbade the US from actively promoted abortions abroad.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/International/story?id=6716958&page=1
I share Schenck’s pessimism about the commitment of Republican politicians to the pro-life cause. But supporting a president who actively supports the aggressive expansion of “abortion rights” seems counterproductive at best, coming from a supposedly pro-life professor.
This particular though and line of thinking is specious at best and entirely dangerous actually. Catholic issues are important indeed, but by two accounts (1) the absolutely ineffectual and historically debunked unvision of the current administration and (2) its intrinsic conflict with a large number of specific Catholic, natural law and historic ally Judeo-Christian teachings and practices, a vote for Obama is a defiance not only of Catholic faith but of its underpinnings . The protraction is indefensible. Only those–of any claimed heritage Catholic or otherwise–who are basically–or more to say, essentially–unaware of issues that , for instance practicing and genuine (not nominal or “heirtage” Catholic, etc–would persist in what only an elite media and those who can vote but but do so immorally (including from a Catholic–real Cathlic ) perspective–will vote agains rationality and common sense. Truth is more than religious denomination of some or another level…..A Nation is likely at stake. Truth will remain whatever the vote or rationalizatrions
I don’t know what you just said Reverend but I think I like it.
Whether one is a democrat or a republican is beside the point. We are all or mostly AMERICANS. My party, as an INDEPENDENT is irrelevant in this most serious election. I’m first an American and not a political party. Mr. Schneck would ONLY BE correct if the election was ONLY about abortion. It is about SAVING AMERICA and the freedoms our founding fathers created in the Bill of Rights and in the U.S. Constitution. It is about all American having freedom to live according to the United States Constitution and according to their religion. Mr. Obama has not allowed all Americans to live according the U.S. Constitution. He denies the rights of Christians to freely practice their religion without interference by the Federal Government. Mr. Obama thinks his own opinion should run America rather than the Constitution. With Christian institutions being forced to pay for a woman’s sexual prefences in birth control, abortion, sex changes, and so on, Mr. Obama and his far left ideology has railroaded the Constitution. It is not about “abortion”, but about religious freedom. It is NOT about ABORTION, but about American staying fiscally sound. Obama has borrowed more money than ANY president EVER. in fact, more than almost all the previous countries ADDED together. America is now in real jeopardy of going BANKRUPT.. The deficit is scary, and just to support that debt, America will not be able to help anyone including our military stay solvent. Again, voting for Obams is far more about saving all Americans,about citizens being free, about enterprise being free, and about our religions having freedom. Voting on November 7 is about SAVING AMERICA, our country and our life!.
I am appalled at the level of divisiveness I observe not only on this website but in others I have been reading over the past few weeks. We are all AMERICANS, and if we fail to remember this, it presages a grim future for our country. We are entitled to our respective stances on politics, religion, etc…but when we resort to name calling (e.g., “ANY CATHOLIC WHO WOULD VOTE FOR OBAMA DOES NOT KNOW ALL THE FACTS. If he knew all the facts and still votes for Obama, then he is not a Christian or an intelligent American Citizen”), or innuendos that someone who does not share our opinion is somehow cognitively deficient or unchristian; then I have to wonder how we can expect anything to be accomplished. We need to have mutual respect and dialogue. The fact that Congress has difficulty reaching across the aisle to accomplish anything is a reflection of the bias and divisiveness of the U.S citizenry. Freedom of speech, thought, and religion are part of what makes this country great.
You say freedom of speech, thought, and religion; yet you forget that as long as Obama is in office, our Constitution, [free speech, or separation of Church and State]” is ignored as Obama pushes forth his agrenda, even when it’s in stark constrast the U.S. Constitution. This is the first president in my lifetime who thinks he knows better than the U.S. Constitution, Congress, and especially the American people. Obama denies “freedom of speech” when it does not further his agenda, just as showed us by having the man who created a video of Muhammad arrested last week. I personally condemn the video, but until now people are not arrested for exercising their free speech even when it’s ridiculing Jesus, the Church, or anyone. Obama ignores the Constitution, opinions of Congress and the Senate when they do not further is personal agenda. Obama has not done any of his morning briefings since February until last week when he was finally caught by the press. He covered up the terrorists attacks on 9/11/12 claiming it was spontaneous rage over the video, even though the intelligence committee knew within less than 24 hours it was a planned AlQueda Terrorist attack.Due to his lack of leadership, we have four dead Americans trying to peace to our world. If Obama had been on the job doing his morning briefing as all presidents before him have done, our Libyan Ambassador may not be dead. It is time we elect a man who will represent our country, our Constitution, all branches of government, and who will listen to his morning briefing, and who will represent America to the world, instead of always apologizing for its existence. It is time we elect a man who will honor our constitution for it amendment of “Separation of Church and state”, and leave religious instituions alone so they, as should Americans, buy any insurance they choose, without any government mandates and interference.
Just a point of clarification, Genevieve 2: Nakoula Basseley Nakoula, the man behind the anti-Islam video, was arrested not for exercising his free speech, but because he had violated the conditions of his probation from a prior conviction for financial crimes. Following a 2010 check fraud conviction, Nakoula (just one of his alleged 17 aliases) was forbidden under the terms of his probation to use the Internet or computers without permission from his probation officer.
You have proven the point I was making; namely, in the frenetic rush to lambast anyone who does not agree with a particular point of view, it is easy to overlook the necessity to take the time to check out the facts. We have had presidents and Congressional representatives of both major parties who are more concerned with their agendas than about forging a true bipartisan approach to issues that are of grave importance to our country. If we cannot work together as a nation, then we will get the government we deserve. God help us.
The government is no doubt in my mind and many others the number one enemy of the people. The only reason why the Godless commies have not taken completely over is because of a few good God-faring honest freedom loving Republicans with some guts.
Plus, they haven’t grabbed all our guns, yet. And, Obama and his goon-sqaud are the worst of the worst.
The system is practically all rigged and your vote is going the way of the U.S. dollar. Don’t give me this partisan-work -together-politics to further destroy the America that once was.
Tina,
Without speaking in platitudes, tell us how Obama is good for Catholics and Catholic principals.
Since you are such a sage and we are Troglodytes, that should be easy for you, right?
If you or someone begins a campaign no to vote for either party that not doing anything about the abortion issues, I will be the first to join. Build a field (cmapaign) and they will come.
Beliefs as stated in your article are exactly why so many are leaving the Catholic Church. For many years it has waffled on matters of morality. I’ve seen too many churches that have become social clubs, too many people going to Communion with absolutely no reverence. This is not the fault of the congregations, it is the fault of the pastors and yes, in many cases the hierarchy of the Church.
Now, the Catholic opinion is that abortion is the only issue. Obama has lied constantly. He has defied the Catholic Church while bowing to Islam, he is dismantling our Constitution with his Executive Orders. He has covered up gun-running and the recent Murder of our Ambassador and Seals & the continued terror on our Embassies.
One look at Proverbs should show any believer how to live life and Obama and yes, the Democrats in Congress are living like the the High Priests who were so offended by Jesus.
We are taught that when one gives it must come from the heart and if it is with a grudging heart it is worthless in God’s eyes. What is forced excessive taxes and greed to buy votes?
I’ve just had it with this overly tolerant Church of today. We have just gone along to get along and like the U.S., we lost our exceptionalism.
If you THINK you are a Catholic and you choose to vote democrat, you may want to consider the idea that you may not actually be a Catholic. If you are truly a Catholic, the Holy Spirit in your heart would convict you of the evils pervading the democratic political platform. Lord knows, the DNC had serious difficulties amending their platform to actually include God.
Abortion is abortion, and evil is evil, Obama care is still evil…
The Democrats are for keeping the poor, poor… Republicans are for Empowering, Education and less government.
$90 Billion for green energy, Think about this for a minute…
This money should’ve been used for the poor that the DEMS think that they want to help, instead they give money to rich Democrats. Catholics and the rest of Christians must think of who to vote for.