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When Words Lose Their Meaning: President Obama Endorses "Marriage Equality"

By , About.com GuideMay 11, 2012

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On Wednesday, May 9, 2012, President Barack Obama admitted, to the utter surprise of approximately three people in the entire United States, that "I think same-sex couples should be able to get married." Or rather, he hemmed and hawed for about 15 seconds before finally getting to the point of his "revelation," in a convoluted sentence that Thomas Fleming, writing for the London Daily Mail, characterized as "six degrees of subjectivity":

At a certain point, I’ve just concluded that for me personally it is important for me to go ahead and affirm that I think same-sex couples should be able to get married.

There's nothing quite like having the courage of your convictions.

The media, predictably, has referred to President Obama's statement as an endorsement of "marriage equality," which makes it sound like he has taken a stand against, say, laws prohibiting miscegenation. In reality, President Obama has endorsed the ongoing campaign to redefine the word marriage as something other than what it has meant for millennia in law, custom, and tradition: a union between a man and a woman with the primary purpose of procreation. Marriage law and customs reflect that historical meaning, designed as they are to emphasize and protect the connections between successive generations—a word that is itself pregnant with meaning, making the radical nature of this redefinition of marriage all the more clear.

In recent years, and even more so in recent months, surveys have shown that many Christians are willing to throw in the towel on the battle over the redefinition of marriage, so long as the redefinition applies only to marriage in secular law, and churches are left alone to maintain the historical definition of marriage. But President Obama quashed any hope that the battle will stop at the church door, when he argued that the "evolution" of his views on "same-sex marriage" stemmed from his (and his wife's) Christian beliefs:

This is something that, you know, we've talked about over the years and she, you know, she feels the same way, she feels the same way that I do. And that is that, in the end the values that I care most deeply about and she cares most deeply about is how we treat other people and, you know, I, you know, we are both practicing Christians and obviously this position may be considered to put us at odds with the views of others but, you know, when we think about our faith, the thing at root that we think about is, not only Christ sacrificing himself on our behalf, but it's also the Golden Rule, you know, treat others the way you would want to be treated.

I have personally made the argument that the Catholic Church should refuse to recognize secular marriage licenses and should insist, instead, that marriage, in the eyes of the Church, will be what the Church says it will be. I still think that such an approach may be necessary, but I realize now that giving up the political battle would be a mistake. (Whether that battle was lost already in the George W. Bush years, when the Bush administration allowed the federal courts to consider cases that may eventually overturn all state laws upholding the historical definition of marriage, is a different question. Sometimes losing battles still need to be fought.)

If, in the midst of a tough reelection cycle, President Obama is willing to attempt to redefine marriage, knowing that he will alienate a significant number of voters (after having already alienated many others over his contraception mandate), what would he be willing to do once he is reelected? It is by no means farfetched to think that his Justice Department, which has already attempted to tell Christians that the federal government has the authority to decide who counts as a minister in their churches, might pursue antidiscrimination lawsuits against Christian churches that refuse to perform "gay marriages."

"When words lose their meaning, people lose their freedom." The saying is supposedly 2,500 years old, commonly ascribed (as so many such sayings are) to Confucius. In any case, the ancient origins of this saying make it all too clear that such battles never really end, and that freedom, too, is another word that long ago lost its meaning, to be replaced with licentiousness.

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May 11, 2012 at 12:29 pm
(1) Tom Piatak says:

A very powerful piece.

May 11, 2012 at 12:53 pm
(2) Judy says:

LOVE = LOVE

Let go of your dogma and truly embrace the spirit. Would Jesus reject a gay person? Or would he embrace ALL?

May 11, 2012 at 1:10 pm
(3) Elma says:

Words do have meaning!! Civil Union is available to the gay community, but no, they want the same “respect” that Marriage brings to a family. They will never have it because Marriage is a sacred covenant between one man and one woman. No one wishes harm to the gay community. They can live whatever way they wish, but leave those of us who believe in traditional Marriage alone, Please.

May 11, 2012 at 1:12 pm
(4) Karen says:

Sometimes the most loving thing to do is to point out where the line is or to be clear about a word means or to stand for the common good. Jesus did not reject people. He did ask them to live up to a standard of love that was greater than their individual wants or desires. Protecting the meaning of marriage is not the equivalent of rejecting gay people. I believe the Spirit is present in the Dogma and is found in the difficult choices we are called to make in trying to be true to the Spirit. The Dogma helps me to determine if the spirit I am embracing is truly the Spirit.

May 11, 2012 at 1:22 pm
(5) Scott P. Richert says:

Judy, one of the biggest problems we have today is the assumption that marriage is all about “love.” Thus, people “fall in love,” get married, then “fall out of love” and get divorced.

But historically, marriage meant, as I wrote, “a union between a man and a woman with the primary purpose of procreation.” Notice what word is missing there?

Now, I’m not suggesting that love is not an important part of marriage—far from it. But I am saying that marriage, as a social institution, has never been entirely, much less primarily, about love.

“Would Jesus reject a gay person?” You’re asking the wrong question. Christ’s salvation is open to all. The question is, do we reject Christ, in our thoughts, words, and deeds, or do we accept Him by conforming our lives to His Will?

May 11, 2012 at 1:45 pm
(6) Captain Jack says:

Well-said Scott. One of the measures of the strength of a nation and a culture is the clarity and subsequent strength of its beliefs and practices. For many years now there has been a concerted and intentional effort globally, and specifically in our country, to blur and confuse these foundational beliefs. And so we are inexorably drifting into a world devoid of intrinsic meanings and values, an unstable world of confusion and indifference, where once again the “strong” define what is proper and appropriate for the “weak”. Truly one of the saddest calamities of our recent generations…

May 11, 2012 at 2:36 pm
(7) Gertrude says:

Judy, should a child molester be allowed to live and be saved? Of course. Should such an individual have laws created and enacted to protect and facilitate his desires? NO! I know it sounds like a stretch, but educate yourself on groups like the man-boy love org, or some such sick organization. It’s a slippery slope from pushing the envelope of morals to wide acceptance of those morals to practical implementation of the morals to having to live in a society where it becomes an accepted norm.

May 11, 2012 at 5:33 pm
(8) Jason Wiley says:

No, love does not equal love. Love is used in many ways to mean many things. I love hamburgers (I like to consume them), I love fast cars (I enjoy power and speed), I love my new jacket (I dig the way it makes me look). I love my neighbor (I respect his humor and and good sense), I love my neghbor’s wife (but I don’t sleep with her.)

If can marry anyone I love, I can marry my daughter, my first high school girlfriend and her sister too, my pastor, Tim Tebow and Tim Tebow’s mom. But actually, I can marry only one person of the other sex (a woman), who is of age and mentally competent, free, and willing to consent, who is not already married to anyone else, and who is not within a prohibited degree of consanguinity. Every other man can find an eligible woma and marry under exactly the same conditions.

So, no, marriage is not simply and indiscriminately about love. It is about a particular kind of sexual union, the only kind that can possibly beget children.

Absent that kind of sexual unjion, there is no secular, public, civic interest in marriage. You are at liberty. You can write your own mutual agreement (that’s what contract law is all about) or you can associate as you like, free as a bird, without licensure from the state. Do that. Do you really think the state is in charge of love?

May 11, 2012 at 5:43 pm
(9) Raphael Iyambo says:

Scott, you are a true mouthpiece of the authentic Catholic Church. The clarity, accuracy, logicality and conciseness of your presentations always leave no one in doubt where the truth belongs. I am totally with you in the belief that the primary purpose of marriage is not LOVE but PROCREATION which is why the bible enjoins humanity to ‘multiply and fill the earth.’ Same sex marriage is anti-procreation hence a definite disobedience to the word of God.

May 11, 2012 at 6:07 pm
(10) Raphael Iyambo says:

Same sex marriage is an indefensible and obnoxious phenomenom that all right thinking persons and in particular, Catholics must stand up and condemn< Scott, you are doing a great job! Keep it up. And Getrude, that analogy is most apt. Thank you both for stoutly defending the catholic church teachings as they should be.

May 11, 2012 at 7:20 pm
(11) Jose says:

Man + Woman = marriage

Same sex unions need to invent their own term that best describes their lifestyle and fight to make it legal for their benefit as a unit.

Remember that it was Adam and Eve.

May 11, 2012 at 7:49 pm
(12) tim gedler says:

Yes. Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve.

May 11, 2012 at 8:23 pm
(13) anne says:

I am grateful to Blessed John Paul for the Theology of the Body and all should read or attend the course on it as one would appreciate the creation of God of a man and woman.

May 12, 2012 at 4:34 am
(14) Abigail says:

What about the word vote? In the late 1700′s voting was something that could only be done by land owners. By 1856, all states finally removed property ownership as a requirement to vote (however voters were still explicitely defined as male). The 15th Amendment was passed in 1870 which said that vote cannot be denied because of race explicitly. When Susan B. Anthony tried to vote in 1872, she was arrested. Finally, in 1920, the right to vote was extended to women.

So why do women get to say “I vote” when clearly when the concept was started here it was a male only activity? Jose said “Same sex unions need to invent their own term that best describes their lifestyle and fight to make it legal for their benefit as a unit” and he’s totally right. So I’m proposing we stick with how voting was originally defined and if women want to vote they can say “I woman voted” and if people of a different race want to vote they can say “I Chinese voted” or “I African American voted”. Because clearly the term was defined as a (white) male activity, so a woman or an African American partaking in the activity is not the same thing. It’s obvious by this thread that when a word is defined in one way, there is no possible way to extend the definition to fit anything else that could easily fit in the category. Especially since in today’s world, not every heterosexual couple gets married just so they can procreate (which is the definition, meaning if they aren’t going to have kids, they can’t get married).

May 12, 2012 at 10:11 am
(15) Haubert says:

we are now called to worship satan at the open in the name of human rights. I will never be surprised to hear another prominent figure saying let’s also pray to satan as we do to God at the open.it’s a pity for our young generations who are living now in a world which is at fight against God. poor kids don’t know what to embrace and what to reject. the very shameful practices are prenseted to them as values, yet we complain about loss of values and criminalities in our societies. we cause them by what we call human rights. surely there is a time to play, but there will be a time of judgement and Almighty God will be in charge then. here in Africa it’s so painful and confusing to hear such words coming from the mouth of the one we identify as our own at the white house. in the name of God’s children freedom, i will always opte for what the Lord says: marriage is between men and women, not simple human thoughts.

May 12, 2012 at 12:25 pm
(16) patty geinosky says:

I have been trying to understand this “same sex marriage” and how as I devote Catholic I should feel and react to try to be understanding and love as Jesus tells us too. WIth Pentecost in a few days, I am reminded that as a Catholic who has been ftrying to live out the Gospel of God’s love, I need to remain firm in the gift of the “Holy Spirit: that will help me to live out my life for Christ. Holding on to the Hope and Trust that if each one of us who believe….truly believe, that God will protect His church and those who are part of it. But, we as Catholics, must stay firm, devote and continue to live a Catholic life…….The fruits of the Holy Spirit are…..Love, Joy, Peace, Patience, Self-Control, Faithfulness, Goodness and Kindness. God Bless.

May 13, 2012 at 6:27 pm
(17) Mary says:

Everyone should Google “God to Same-Sexers: Hurry Up.”

May 13, 2012 at 9:38 pm
(18) another prodigal says:

what is the REAL AGENDA of “same-sex ‘marriages’ “?

In many countries and states, legal rights are ALREADY granted to homosexual couples to the SAME degree that they are granted to heterosexual married couples.
Therefore since NO intrinsic legal rights are being denied, it simply CANNOT be argued that denying the title of ‘marriage’ denies a human ‘right’.

Homosexual couples often argue that their efforts to obtain these rights are the motive for their desire to have government recognize and legalize same sex marriages.
BUT many states ALREADY recognize these rights within the context of same sex CIVIL UNIONS and partnerships, EVEN WITHOUT the legalization of same sex ‘marriages’:
Eg., they are ALREADY granted the same legal rights that are afforded married couples (i.e. (1) the right to file taxes jointly, (2) the automatic inheritance of property from a deceased spouse, (3) the right to share the medical policy of a spouse, (4) the right to access veterans’ spousal benefits and preferences, (5) the equitable division of property at the time of divorce, (6) the right to temporary or permanent alimony, (7) the right to bring claims for the wrongful death of a mate, (8) the right to be acknowledged as the legitimate parent of children, (9) the prohibition against having to testify against a mate in a court of law, (10) the right to make medical decisions for an incapacitated mate, and (11) the right to apply rules of child custody at the time of divorce).

So we have to ask: what is the REAL AGENDA of these strident “gays”?
Why are they so interested in the WORD when they ALREADY HAD the rights?
…/2

May 13, 2012 at 9:43 pm
(19) another prodigal says:

…/2
What is the REAL AGENDA of “same-sex ‘marriages’ “?

While many same sex advocates may say that it’s all about ‘rights’, it actually appears to be more about salving their conscience and about public ACCEPTANCE and endorsement of their particular lifestyle (which many of them already suspect is immoral). The fight for the word ‘marriage’ is an effort to convince a culture that same sex marriage is “no different than traditional marriage”, even though the statistics clearly demonstrate that this is not the case.
Homosexual activists are NOT concerned with rights; they are in fact concerned with complete societal ENDORSEMENT of their behavior. Homosexuals want the society to stop telling them that what they are doing is ‘wrong’ – and for governments to affirm their lifestyle – so they can feel better about what they are doing:

At least some homosexual advocates (and many homosexuals themselves) are honest about their REAL AGENDA:

“The first order of business is desensitization of the American public concerning gays and gay rights… To DESENSITIZE the public is to help it view homosexuality with INDIFFERENCE instead of with keen emotion. Ideally, we would have straights register differences in sexual preferences the way they register different tastes for ice cream or sports games….At least in the beginning, we are seeking public desensitization and nothing more. We do not need and cannot expect a full ‘appreciation’ or ‘understanding’ of homosexuality from the average American. You can forget about trying to persuade the masses that homosexuality is a good thing. But if only you can get them to THINK that it is just another thing…then your battle for legal and social rights is virtually WON” (The Overhauling of Straight America, Guide Magazine, November 1987)
…/3

May 13, 2012 at 9:46 pm
(20) another prodigal says:

…/2
what is the REAL AGENDA of “same-sex ‘marriages’ “?

While many same sex advocates may say that it’s all about ‘rights’, it actually appears to be more about salving their conscience and about public ACCEPTANCE and endorsement of their particular lifestyle (which many of them already suspect is immoral). The fight for the word ‘marriage’ is an effort to convince a culture that same sex marriage is “no different than traditional marriage”, even though the statistics clearly demonstrate that this is not the case.
Homosexual activists are NOT concerned with rights; they are in fact concerned with complete societal ENDORSEMENT of their behavior. Homosexuals want the society to stop telling them that what they are doing is ‘wrong’ – and for governments to affirm their lifestyle – so they can feel better about what they are doing:

At least some homosexual advocates (and many homosexuals themselves) are honest about their REAL AGENDA:

“The first order of business is desensitization of the American public concerning gays and gay rights… To DESENSITIZE the public is to help it view homosexuality with INDIFFERENCE instead of with keen emotion. Ideally, we would have straights register differences in sexual preferences the way they register different tastes for ice cream or sports games….At least in the beginning, we are seeking public desensitization and nothing more. We do not need and cannot expect a full ‘appreciation’ or ‘understanding’ of homosexuality from the average American. You can forget about trying to persuade the masses that homosexuality is a good thing. But if only you can get them to THINK that it is just another thing…then your battle for legal and social rights is virtually WON” (The Overhauling of Straight America, Guide Magazine, November 1987)
…/3

May 13, 2012 at 9:50 pm
(21) another prodigal says:

…3
What is the REAL AGENDA of “same-sex ‘marriages’ “?

Homosexual “advocates reveal this about themselves:

“The teaching that only male-female sexual activity within the bounds and constraints of marriage is the only acceptable form should be reason enough for any homosexual to denounce the Christian religion” (Advocate, 1985.)

So what are the FUTURE PROBLEMS which “same-sex marriage” would pose to civilisatiion?
- If marriage was really a universal legal ‘right’ available to anyone and everyone who desired it, the institution of marriage would have to be redesigned as a contract available to ANY group of parties no matter what kind of alliance they might choose – eg.,
- If consenting adults have the universal legal ‘right’ to be married, is this ‘right’ then extended to ANY and ALL combinations of consenting adults?
Why are we, for example, limiting the number of adults that can be united in marriage?
Why are we restricting adult siblings from marrying one another?
Why are we restricting parents and adult children from marrying one another (especially if they agree in advance NOT to have children, thereby eliminating the fear of genetic deformities)?
The DANGER: iF marriage is a universal legal right … then it would also be mandatory to redesign the contract to include ANY grouping of consenting adults or even to children.

… and this is exactly why CIVILISED societies require our government to consider the “GREATER common good” of the larger community group when trying to assess what it should or shouldn’t do related to that group.
…/4

May 13, 2012 at 9:54 pm
(22) another prodigal says:

…/3
what is the REAL AGENDA of “same-sex ‘marriages’ “?

“The teaching that only male-female sexual activity within the bounds and constraints of marriage is the only acceptable form should be reason enough for any homosexual to denounce the Christian religion” (Advocate, 1985.)

So what are the FUTURE PROBLEMS which “same-sex marriage” would pose to civilisatiion?
- If marriage was really a universal legal ‘right’ available to anyone and everyone who desired it, the institution of marriage would have to be redesigned as a contract available to ANY group of parties no matter what kind of alliance they might choose – eg.,
- If consenting adults have the universal legal ‘right’ to be married, is this ‘right’ then extended to ANY and ALL combinations of consenting adults?
Why are we, for example, limiting the number of adults that can be united in marriage?
Why are we restricting adult siblings from marrying one another?
Why are we restricting parents and adult children from marrying one another (especially if they agree in advance NOT to have children, thereby eliminating the fear of genetic deformities)?
The DANGER: iF marriage is a universal legal right … then it would also be mandatory to redesign the contract to include ANY grouping of consenting adults or even to children.

… and this is exactly why CIVILISED societies require our government to consider the “GREATER common good” of the larger community group when trying to assess what it should or shouldn’t do related to that group.
…/4

May 13, 2012 at 10:01 pm
(23) another prodigal says:

…/4
What is the REAL AGENDA of “same-sex ‘marriages’ “?

We must remember that our (elected) governments is not trying to limit or prohibit same sex relationships; it simply does NOT want to endorse “same-sex marriages” as an ideal.
In a similar way, government would NOT want to endorse traditional marriages in which violence, abuse, addiction and neglect are present. In fact, Government not only discourages such bad relationships, but it actively works to eliminate them by incarcerating members of these kinds of destructive relationships!
AND In fact, where Homosexual marriage has been legal in some European countries for many years, eg Norway and Sweden, where same sex marriages have been available for nearly 20 years, male homosexuals are about 50% more likely to divorce (than their heterosexual counterparts) and female homosexuals are about 200% more likely to divorce. To make matters worse, same sex partners were MORE likely to divorce if children were part of the family unit! (Andersson G, Noack T, Seierstad A, Weedon-Fekjaer H., “Divorce-risk patterns in same-sex ‘marriage’ in Norway and Sweden”, PAA2004 Annual Meeting, Boston 4/13/04). Over and over again, we see that those same sex marriages that do exist across the globe exhibit the same characteristics as same sex unmarried partnerships. These marriages are more abusive, unhealthy, unfaithful and temporary that their heterosexual counterparts, with serious destructive impacts on children.
…/5

May 13, 2012 at 10:04 pm
(24) another prodigal says:

…/4
what is the REAL AGENDA of “same-sex ‘marriages’ “?

We must remember that our (elected) governments is not trying to limit or prohibit same sex relationships; it simply does NOT want to endorse “same-sex marriages” as an ideal.
In a similar way, government would NOT want to endorse traditional marriages in which violence, abuse, addiction and neglect are present. In fact, Government not only discourages such bad relationships, but it actively works to eliminate them by incarcerating members of these kinds of destructive relationships!
AND In fact, where Homosexual marriage has been legal in some European countries for many years, eg Norway and Sweden, where same sex marriages have been available for nearly 20 years, male homosexuals are about 50% more likely to divorce (than their heterosexual counterparts) and female homosexuals are about 200% more likely to divorce. To make matters worse, same sex partners were MORE likely to divorce if children were part of the family unit! (Andersson G, Noack T, Seierstad A, Weedon-Fekjaer H., “Divorce-risk patterns in same-sex ‘marriage’ in Norway and Sweden”, PAA2004 Annual Meeting, Boston 4/13/04). Over and over again, we see that those same sex marriages that do exist across the globe exhibit the same characteristics as same sex unmarried partnerships. These marriages are more abusive, unhealthy, unfaithful and temporary that their heterosexual counterparts, with serious destructive impacts on children
…/5

May 13, 2012 at 10:06 pm
(25) another prodigal says:

…/5
What is the REAL AGENDA of “same-sex ‘marriages’ “?

Therefore we all have a serious obligation to fully consider all the implications before we unthinkingly, accept any fashionable trend with (dangerous) indifference .

Every civilised society, is in fact OBLIGED to distinguish on the basis of BEHAVIOUR – otherwise we descend into chaos.
So our prohibition of same sex marriage has nothing at all to do with a distinction related to intrinsic qualities like race or national origin, BUT instead distinguishes on the basis of BEHAVIOUR, and this is completely appropriate.
The institution of marriage is simply the natural outgrowth of what humans must do in order to propagate and continue their existence. Government is simply recognizing what is, by definition, the single most necessary human relationship in existence for thousands of years.

Prohibition of “same sex marriage” has nothing at all to do with any religion, but is about civilised survival and the “GREATER COMMON GOOD” of community, nation …and therefore should be prohibited for completely NON-religious reasons.

May 13, 2012 at 10:34 pm
(26) another prodigal says:

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what is the REAL AGENDA of “same-sex ‘marriages’ “?

It is not too late for all responsible citizens to write URGENT letters to your political representatives to make sure that YOUR voice is heard as well. Otherwise politicians, being politicians, are more likely to listen more to any group which makes the most noise.

Remember, all nations need to return to an ethical way of life, based on moral principles. Solzenitzyn: the only way the world can be released from evil, is to have a complete spiritual transformation in every person and to return to God…. the evils which have taken place in Russia is because mankind has rejected God.
There is no higher aspiration for a society than to live by the real Christian ethos of a truly Christian humanism.

Even historian and Harvard professor Niall Ferguson (with an atheist upbringing) recognises that, through history, nations who had embraced Christianity had made the most remarkable progress and positive contribution to civilisation.

May 13, 2012 at 10:37 pm
(27) another prodigal says:

…/6
What is the REAL AGENDA of “same-sex ‘marriages’ “?

Write URGENT letters to your political representatives to make sure that YOUR voice is heard as well. Otherwise politicians, being politicians, are more likely to listen more to any group which makes the most noise.

Remember, all nations need to return to an ethical way of life, based on moral principles.
There is no higher aspiration for a society than to live by the real Christian ethos of a truly Christian humanism.
Even historian and Harvard professor Niall Ferguson (with an atheist upbringing) recognises that, through history, nations who had embraced Christianity had made the most remarkable progress and positive contribution to civilisation.

May 14, 2012 at 10:55 am
(28) Tom Blackburn says:

How did the Bush administration “allow” the federal courts to do anything? I don’t mean just the cases you have in mind, but your odd interpretation of separation of powers wherein the executive apparently can tell the judiciary what it can and can’t consider.

May 14, 2012 at 11:13 am
(29) Scott P. Richert says:

“your odd interpretation of separation of powers wherein the executive apparently can tell the judiciary what it can and can’t consider”

Nothing odd at all about it, Tom. Check out Article III, Section 2 of the U.S. Constitution, regarding the limits of the Court’s appellate jurisdiction.

This is a pretty basic principle of constitutional law. The Bush administration convinced Congress to remove cases involving the Pledge of Allegiance and detention of suspected terrorists from consideration by the federal courts.

Yet, when Republican congressmen, in the first term of the Bush administration, introduced similar legislation in the House that would have removed cases involving state definitions of marriage from federal court consideration (which would have prevented the possibility of a Supreme Court ruling overturning all state laws regarding the definition of marriage), the Bush administration refused to support the legislation. Karl Rove wanted to save “gay marriage” as a campaign issue in 2004; if the legislation had passed, it wouldn’t have been one at the national level anymore.

By the time the 2004 campaign was over, the cases were already in the federal courts, and it was too late.

May 14, 2012 at 12:45 pm
(30) Divina says:

God created a man and a woman and not a man and a man or a woman and a woman. where is the place of gay marriage in the image of Gods creation. Does it means God made a mistake? whatever, each and everyone of us has the right to do with his/her life what he/she wishes but remember you will not be spared from the last judgement. let Political leaders defend their political titles by legalizing gay marriage. Oh
Lord have mercy, for they know not what they do.

May 15, 2012 at 12:00 pm
(31) Faustina says:

No matter which way we want to look at gay marriage it is an abormination unto God,it is sinful,it is contarary to the will of God,and it should not be heard or mention among the people of God,but it quite unfortunite that a christian president and some christians are at the forefront of this evil,just because the want to satisfy their evil desire.If their parents should have been a gay i dont know how they will come to existence.

May 18, 2012 at 11:01 am
(32) EVELYN says:

the word of God is true and alive,a virgin will give birth, (virgin mary ) why did’nt JESUS come through a man? at least there were other holy men at that time .Why use the weakness of these people that are supposed to be pettied to gain political power ,this act is demonic.Jesus will never condem homosexuals,because Jesus is most compassionate ,but those who encourage this act due to their selfish interest should remember what Jesus said (woe unto any one who will lead any of these little ones into sin)May i ask a question?This politicians if they so much love this gay thing , have they left their wives/husband for same sex?May God help us all.God protect you Scott.

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