President Obama Addresses the Murder of George Tiller
BNONews reports that President Barack Obama has issued a short statement regarding the murder of late-term abortionist George Tiller:
"I am shocked and outraged by the murder of Dr. George Tiller as he attended church services this morning. However profound our differences as Americans over difficult issues such as abortion, they cannot be resolved by heinous acts of violence."
Two weeks ago, after he delivered the 2009 commencement address at the University of Notre Dame, President Obama was hailed for attempting to find "common ground" on abortion. But this statement shows that he is tone deaf when it comes to the concerns of pro-lifers. Yes, we should all be shocked and outraged by the murder of Tiller, and anyone who says he is shocked and outraged by the late-term abortions that Tiller performed but not by his murder is not truly pro-life.
But if the President truly were attempting to find "common ground" on abortion with those of us who believe that life begins at conception, then he would understand that abortion is not simply a "difficult issue" for us; we see abortions as "heinous acts of violence" as well. This is particularly true of the late-term abortions that George Tiller performed. Most late-term abortions are performed on children who have reached the point of viability—the point at which they could survive outside their mothers' wombs. Tiller performed over 60,000 such abortions by his own hand.
The abortion-rights movement has perpetuated the myth that Roe v. Wade legalized abortion only during the first trimester, and that later rulings left that restriction intact. Yet from the beginning, exceptions for the "health" of the mother extended the window for legal abortion up until virtually the moment of birth.
And yet only one abortionist in the United States besides Tiller performs late-term abortions on a regular basis. Why? Because these late-term abortions are so gruesome that even doctors who are ideological supporters of abortion do not wish to take part.
The murder of George Tiller was indeed a "heinous act of violence." Millions of pro-lifers, myself included, are praying that his murderer will be brought to justice, and that God may have mercy on the souls of both Tiller and his murderer.
But if President Obama truly wishes to find some "common ground," rather than simply to defuse pro-life criticism of his pro-abortion policies, then he needs to acknowledge that he understands why pro-lifers see abortion—especially the type of abortions that George Tiller performed—as "heinous acts of violence" as well.
Otherwise, I fear that my prediction will turn out to be correct, and the President will use Tiller's murder as an excuse to join forces with the abortion lobby to crack down on peaceful pro-life demonstrations and to sign the Freedom of Choice Act into law.
In a country in which abortion protesters may be jailed for praying their rosaries and begging women to allow them to help bring their children to term, there will be no room to find "common ground" on abortion. And that will mean that more people will go off the rails and respond to heinous acts of violence with equally heinous acts of violence.
Dear concerned citizens of the United States of America:
Today we witnessed an end to the death ministry of Dr George Killer (oops, Tiller). Dr. Tiller and Hitler had very much in common; they both waited for the winds-of-change to blow favorably in their direction. Changing Judiciary votes, preying on the amoral mindset of the majority or minority of our population, all contributed to the victimization of hysterical pregnant mothers (over 30,000,000 who became men’s “Pleasure toys”), who later realized they are pregnant.
Dr Tiller and his assassin are both guilty of crimes against humanity, they are both serial killers. One just has more notches on his gun than the other one does! And neither one is a victim, for they both gave their life to an unworthy cause. Dr Tiller no longer has the option to repent, but hopefully his assassin will.
A wanted unborn = A life birthed child
The same, but unwanted unborn = A dead suctioned fetus
What a tragic dichotomy!
Primary solution to the Pro-Life Pro-Choice dilemma:
All of us do wrong and compare ourselves with others;
We are not more righteous* than hysterical pregnant mothers.
And if most women-with-child was loved by the child’s father
She would smile and happily say “No abortion” why bother!
Ask God and the person you mated with to forgive you, forgive yourself and live the abundant life!!!
Sincerely,
Arthur Trafford
Below is a link to a “Fresh Air” interview of a well known author who wrote a book called “Bad Mother”. About 4 minutes into the interview she goes into the 2nd abortion she had and justifies. She didn’t want any kind of mentally handicapped child, however, minor and her husband, the Putlizer prize winning author, Michael Chaban, told her that if she had the baby and he was handicapped, he didn’t know if their marriage would survive. In essence, he didn’t want defective children either. Talk about eugenics!
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=103794433
Whoa, what a great way to distort a quotation! In response to Obamas statement, you write, “But this statement shows that he is tone deaf when it comes to the concerns of pro-lifers”
May I ask HOW you came to the conclusion that he is tone-deaf from this statement??? Try not twisting the matter into your own agenda. No argument can be made with Obama’s statement. We ALL agree with what he said.
Try not twisting what people say and turn it into something to further your agenda…that is morally wrong! You are putting words into his mouth!
-continually outraged with my religion!
Purna, I’m not putting words into his mouth; I’m discussing the words that he used:
“However profound our differences as Americans over difficult issues such as abortion, they cannot be resolved by heinous acts of violence.”
And yet that’s precisely what abortion—and, in particular, the gruesome late-term abortions that George Tiller performed—is.
I believe the crux between what Purna contends — that differences cannot be resolved by violence (e.g. assualt, murder), and what Scott asserts — that abortion is itself an example of a heinous act can in fact be seen in Obama’s use of the word “difference.” Until abortion is actually and utterly outlawed, it is not equal to murder. We ALL agree murder is wrong (on more levels than need be enumerated here), and should not and cannot be used as a method, tool, or weapon to combat pro-choice advocates and physicians. Once you use equal violence to combat violence, you have made a dire choice.
Now with that said, I find myself with renewed disgust with the idea of late-term abortions and Dr. Tiller’s many, many executions of them.
However, it remains a controversial topic of much disagreement. I should hope there is zero disagreement on the matter of Dr. Tiller’s homicide.
I totally agree with you Scott. Obama’s statement is hippicritical. How can one refer to one murder of a human being, such as Dr. Tiller as a “heinous act of violence” but not consider a late term abortion of a baby not to be the same? How can anyone consider this anything but murder – no matter what religion you are?
I believe the crux between what Purna contends — that differences cannot be resolved by violence (e.g. assualt, murder), and what Scott asserts — that abortion is itself an example of a heinous act can in fact be seen in Obama’s use of the word “difference.” Until abortion is actually and utterly outlawed, it is not equal to murder. We ALL agree murder is wrong (on more levels than need be enumerated here), and should not and cannot be used as a method, tool, or weapon to combat pro-choice advocates and physicians. Once you use equal violence to combat violence, you have made a dire choice.
Now with that said, I find myself with renewed disgust with the idea of late-term abortions and Dr. Tiller’s many, many executions of them.
However, it remains a controversial topic of much disagreement. I should hope there is zero disagreement on the matter of Dr. Tiller’s homicide.controversial
It upsets me so much that a person took it in his own hands to do justice to Tiller. I could not bear to call him a doctor and I abhored his practice. However,this act will probably make it ten times worse for us pro-lifers who are trying to change the death mentatlity of the abortionists.
Killing is killing.
Scott, your comment makes me wonder whether your focus is “hate Obama” rather than “hate abortion.”
So, Keith, discussion of public statements by the President of the United States is off limits now?
President Obama said that he wants to find “common ground.” The first step in doing so is to recognize that those who oppose abortion believe it to be a “heinous act of violence,” rather than a “difficult issue.”
One could agree with Obama’s position on abortion and still understand why this statement is not conducive to finding “common ground.” Sadly, though, it appears that, when speaking about either President Obama or abortion, some people who oppose or support one or the other are simply unable to engage in political analysis.
This is just twisted around. You guys twist it to your own agenda. It’s silly to think that if fathers just loved the mother everything would be peachy. What an idiotic ideal. What about sexual abuse, incest, etc. Would the baby put in sisters tummy by daddy be better off? Ridiculous!
Would the baby put in sisters tummy by daddy be better off?
Edna, I think you left off part of your sentence. Let me edit it for you:
Would the baby put in sisters tummy by daddy be better off alive rather than dead?
Cool!
from another source:
O’Reilly on Tiller: 60,000 Abortions
On the 6/1/2009 “O’Reilly Report” on Fox News, Bill O’Reilly repeated the claim that recently-murdered Dr. George Tiller had performed 60,000 abortions in his career. But is that possible?
Roe v. Wade was decided in 1973, so if Dr. Tiller’s abortions were all legal, they would have been performed in the last 36 years. Sixty thousand divided by 36 is about 1,667 per year. If Dr. Tiller took 4 weeks of vacation, sick leave, or other non-working days each year, that means he performed about 35 abortions a week, or about one an hour (assuming a 9-to-5 day with an hour off for lunch).
Performing an abortion an hour every working day for 36 years? I don’t believe it happened.
This is just more inflation of people emotions to push thier point. use common sense, people.
And guess what? He WAS a doctor. He trained for years to be a doctor. Just because he didn’t use his skills in a way you approved of does not take that away.
Cypress Green, the abortion clinic here in Rockford, Illinois, is open only two days per week and consistently performs 35-40 abortions per week. What you’re missing is that much of the time for an abortion is prep time.
To make a poor analogy, my average dental checkup takes about 45 minutes. Yet the dentist himself sees four or five patients during that time period. He’s only in the room for what he needs to be. The rest is handled by assistants.
It’s the same in abortion clinics.
I understand what you wrote Scott, but I still disagree with how you have changed Obama’s quote around in order to support your agenda. Obama specifically implied the murder of Dr. Tiller when he spoke of heinous acts of violence. Now you have gone in there and changed his meaning around to say that pro-choice people and Obama believe that abortion is not a heinous act. Well you can not come to that conclusion from what he says. What you can do, which is what you have done, is say that he is meaning something else by his words.
Honestly I think you need to spend a bit more time analyzing what he is indeed saying, instead of expanding what he says to make the jump to something you want to say. That is not right.